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Preserving The Blogging Dippers

March 5, 2007

Alright! Enough on this attack on all Blogging Dippers (most who are not anti-semitic), and time to be constructive for the future.

I am going to post a list of suggestions that will hopefully be constructive in improving the Blogging Dippers as opposed to destructive.

First of all, the single operator model that the Blogging Dippers and Liblogs is run on is not working, because when the single operator says something controversial, the entire blogroll is dragged into it, innocent or guilty.

I suggest that the Blogging Dippers get two more operators, in addition to Robert. In this way, the work involved in maintaining a blogroll can be shared and the damage won’t be so great when one of the operators says something controversial.

I still think Robert should stay on as an operator, because for one, he owns the server space and domain name. Without those, there is no Blogging Dippers. None. And let’s face it, Robert has put a lot of work into the Blogging Dippers.

Secondly, I think that the Blogging Dippers needs a racism/tolerance policy, one that can be a guide regarding the sensitive nature of this issue. Let’s be clear on what is acceptable and what is not.

I hope that the adoption of this recommendations will keep the Blogging Dippers unified, as opposed to being split in the manner of Babble, EnMasse, and Bread’n’Roses.

Categories: Blogosphere
  1. March 5, 2007 at 3:18 pm

    Good ideas. And what’s even better is that I’ve already begun that very process.

  2. March 5, 2007 at 3:24 pm

    perhaps adding a some sort of disclaimer that the blogging dipper blog site has no official affiliation with the NDP …

  3. March 5, 2007 at 3:32 pm

    or that posts from bloggers might not represent those of the NDP, just something to keep everyone out of hot water?

    dunno, i just hope the list / site remains.

  4. March 5, 2007 at 3:33 pm

    You think he should stay on? Holy shit man.

  5. JF
    March 5, 2007 at 3:54 pm

    Regarding the absolute need to stay on Robert’s server, I have a perfectly fine server running a still a bit buggy and there’s some features I have yet to implement (like trunking posts) but functioning mirror of Blogging Dippers. But I’m not here to advocate that, that wouldn’t be the ideal solution because than you’d end up with me in Robert’s place, and I have no interest in playing that role (although I would be ready to give access to anybody who would be willing to play that role, we could even do this by regular moderator elections, like in enMasse), I am just reminding that there are many options on the table. So whatever happens, Blogging Dippers will remain, and I could just buy bloggingdippers.ca to redirect to my site if for some odd reason Robert decided to oppose us all.

    Now, I think it would be ideal to have a common statement regarding this incident so that it will be clear that many Blogging Dippers do not support McClelland’s comments, so that way, there would be no question as to whether we condone this or not. Do we have to split up like Cherniak is asking? No. We are simply speaking out against racism, which is something each of us must do, no matter the conditions.

    That’s why I put this up, and I’d appreciate if you’d join the deliberation:

  6. March 5, 2007 at 5:55 pm

    “I still think Robert should stay on as an operator”

    If McClelland had the interests of the group at heart, he would demand that he be allowed to resign. I cannot believe that you actually want to keep working with him.

  7. Northern BC Dipper
    March 5, 2007 at 5:59 pm

    Jason and James,

    Please read the reasoning as to why I believe we need in in such a position, at least for the short term.

  8. March 6, 2007 at 1:24 pm

    i’m sorry, but the way the dippin’ bloggers have circled the wagons on this is despicable. if mr. mclelland had any decency he would:

    A) explain himself and defend his choice of words
    B) apologize for his choice of words and the callous manner they were delivered

    without at least doing A or B, i don’t see how any dippin’ blogger with a concsience can:

    A) defend him
    B) argue that he maintain his position with the dippin’ bloggers

  9. March 6, 2007 at 1:31 pm


    It’s all in the hands of a democratic vote by the Blogging Dippers now. The Blogging Dippers can control their internal affairs despite the attempts of destruction by Cherinak.

    It’s too bad that you support Cherinak’s attacks on the innocent.

  10. David
    March 9, 2007 at 5:01 am

    Robert is a liability and not even a member of the NDP, he shouldn’t get a free pass just because he owns the webspace. He should either turn it over voluntarily to a committee elected by the Dippers (that doesn’t include Robert) or a new blogroll should be founded.

  11. rww
    January 9, 2008 at 11:44 am

    Does this dispute, which I do not know the details of, have anything to do with why the URL is down.

  12. Northern BC Dipper
    January 9, 2008 at 11:50 am

    Hi rww,

    Just to fill you in on the end of the dispute, the Blogging Dippers had democratic elections, and Devin Johnston, Ravi Joshi, and Paladiea became the new administrators.

    Anyways, no, this dispute has nothing to do with why the URL is down. The administrators are not sure why is this the case yet, but they are working on fixing the problem.

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